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Jimmy
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Fayetteville Observer.com used to have a free online crossword puzzle that I enjoyed working out when I was bored. It was free, you clicked on it and it gave you the Crossword for the day, or Crosswords for previous days. You typed your answers in it just like a regular crossword. That crossword feature is gone. Now it takes you to a site where you have to pay to solve the puzzle! I'm not a-goinna pay nothin' to solve no crossword puzzle! So there!

[ May 27, 2009, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: Jimmy ]

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Good decision, Jimmy. Don't let them abuse you.

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Dang, I hadn't even missed the crossword puzzles. They used to be fun.

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Jimmy, go to "http://www.wral.com/", select "Entertainment," select, "Games." finally select "Crosswords"

One can play there for free all day. There are thousands of puzzles. I've been playing there about a year, several puzzles a day and don't think I've had a repeat.

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Thanks op. I will try that site.

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Weird:
- People pay 50 cents to buy a paper to play the crossword ($1.50 on Sunday). You get one puzzle per purchase

- People pay $10 to $20, sometimes more, to buy a book of crossword puzzles at a bookstore or newsstand. You get several dozen, maybe even 100.

But people get angry when a web site asks for $3.95 per month (with an offer for $19.95 per year) to access 70 new puzzles per week, a mix of crosswords and other kinds of puzzles, plus 8,000 puzzles in its archive.

Why is that?

(edited to reflect that the web site has other puzzles besides crossword puzzles)

[ May 29, 2009, 08:29 AM: Message edited by: Paul Woolverton ]

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The whole value of all intellectual property is being eroded by The Internet is Free mentality, Paul. The idea of Free doesn't stop at just the exchange of ideas, but goes back to every aspect of producing and disseminating ideas.

It's like any business, if you have a buy one-get one free deal for too long, it erodes the perceived value of the one you're charging for too. Somebody somewhere will produce it for cheaper for a while, even if their business model is flawed and it's temporary. [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Woolverton:
Weird:
- People pay 50 cents to buy a paper to play the crossword ($1.50 on Sunday). You get one puzzle per purchase

- People pay $10 to $20, sometimes more, to buy a book of crossword puzzles at a bookstore or newsstand. You get several dozen, maybe even 100.

But people get angry when a web site asks for $3.95 per month (with an offer for $19.95 per year) to access 70 new crossword puzzles a week, plus 8,000 puzzles in its archive.

Why is that?

1, Because we were used to getting a puzzle a day for free.

2, One can get all the puzzles imaginable om WWW.WRAL.COM free of charge.

3, Why spend $3.95/ month or $19.95/year for what one can get for free?

4, I must doubt your statement that "People pay 50 cents to buy a paper to play the crossword ($1.50 on Sunday). You get one puzzle per purchase."
Were that to be true don't you think that would put your newspaper in a bad light?

Paul, I think the operative word here is free.

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People buy the paper for many reasons, and one of those reasons is to play the crossword.

But you're right: When the media expanded to the Internet back in the mid-1990s, they bought into "if it's online it must be offered for free" mentality. They trained the public to expect information, much of which is costly to create, for free.

The theory was that advertising would underwrite the cost. Not at first, but eventually.

It's been nearly 15 years now, and with rare exceptions, advertising revenue online has never been sufficient to cover the cost. It doesn't even come close.

Industry-wide, there is serious discussion of starting to charge for online content. They producers can no longer afford the losses.

I'm curious to find out whether the free crossword puzzles available through WRAL are losing money for WRAL or the puzzle creators.

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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Woolverton:
People buy the paper for many reasons, and one of those reasons is to play the crossword.

But you're right: When the media expanded to the Internet back in the mid-1990s, they bought into "if it's online it must be offered for free" mentality. They trained the public to expect information, much of which is costly to create, for free.

The theory was that advertising would underwrite the cost. Not at first, but eventually.

It's been nearly 15 years now, and with rare exceptions, advertising revenue online has never been sufficient to cover the cost. It doesn't even come close.

Industry-wide, there is serious discussion of starting to charge for online content. They producers can no longer afford the losses.

I'm curious to find out whether the free crossword puzzles available through WRAL are losing money for WRAL or the puzzle creators.

It goes without saying that the internet has placed enormous amounts of material at our fingertips that we wouldn’t have access to without it. I have bookmarks from some eighty news sources, in English, around the world as well as a couple of hundred other bookmarks. Without the net I’d never be able to access all those news sources.

If a charge is levied for internet content I won’t be able to utilize it anywhere as much as I now do.

Paul, I would think you’re in a position to learn if WRAL or the puzzle creators are making or losing money on their crosswords.

[ May 29, 2009, 10:27 AM: Message edited by: opserver ]

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